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Director Rian Johnson on Looper’s True Meaning

"You have to have something bigger than time travel that’s worth asking an audience to sit in the dark for two hours."

Rian Johnson first cast Joseph Gordon-Levitt in the quirky 2005 film noir project Brick he made for less than $500,000. Back then the director and star were Hollywood up-and-comers—an indie director and a former child star. What a difference a few years makes. The pair reunited for Looper, a $30 million sci-fi thriller where Gordon-Levitt plays a young Bruce Willis charged with killing his future self, in theaters Sept. 28—the biggest film of Johnson’s career to date. TIME sat down with the 38-year-old director to talk casting calls, dystopian inspirations and his agonizing writing process.

TIME: You’ve done smaller budget films in the past, but Looper puts you in the big leagues. Did you know that going in?

RIAN JOHNSON: I think I would probably lose my mind if I thought in those terms when I’m actually sitting in front of the word processor. I hope it does reach a big audience, but that’s such an abstract thing. Making the movie was still very similar to making Brick and The Brother’s Bloom. It felt like a group of friends getting together to make a movie. Even the fresh blood we brought—Bruce  and Emily —instantly felt like party of the gang.

I wrote it as short film I never ended up shooting a few years before we even made Brick—so 10 years ago. But then it really just sat in a drawer until I finished The Brother’s Bloom.
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Did you always know you wanted Joseph Gordon-Levitt as your leading man?

I was writing it for Joe. Largely just because we’ve stayed really good friends since we made Brick together, and I just wanted to work with my friend. I knew the part was going to require this big transformation and that’s something that Joe really loves doing, so for a lot of different reasons it made sense.

Then you cast Bruce Willis?

Bruce was like at the top of the list. I just looked at the list, and I was like, ‘oh my god, Bruce Willis.’ We said ‘let’s offer it to him but he’ll never say yes. But let’s try.’ We never thought he’d say yes.

Like many viewers, I didn’t notice the prosthetics Gordon-Levitt wears to look like Willis. How did you pull that off?

[Looper special makeup effects artist] Kazuhiro TsujiKazu is a wizard. But at first when he looked at pictures of Joe and Bruce next to each other and he explained why it was impossible to make Joe look like a younger Bruce. At first he didn’t want to do the job because their heads are different shapes, and their eyes are different widths apart. But eventually we pestered him to death. What he did is amazing.

Gordon-Levitt wasn’t the only actor to undergo some big appearance transformations.

We have to talk about Emily ! I had no idea how she would pull off being an American Midwestern farm girl. I couldn’t imagine that, and that’s part of why I cast her—because it’s like ‘I know she’ll do it but I don’t know how.’ And she showed up blonde and tanned. Joe is the transformation, the physical transformation, everyone’s talking about, but she had just as big a transformation. She looked like a different person on set.


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                                                                                                                                    Rian Johnson first cast Joseph Gordon-Levitt in the quirky 2005 film noir project Brick he made for less than $500,000. Back then the director and star were Hollywood up-and-comers—an indie director and a former child star. What a difference a few years makes. The pair reunited for Looper, a $30 million sci-fi thriller where Gordon-Levitt plays a young Bruce Willis charged with killing his future self, in theaters Sept. 28—the biggest film of Johnson’s career to date. TIME sat down with the 38-year-old director to talk casting calls, dystopian inspirations and his agonizing writing process.



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                                                                                                                                    RIAN JOHNSON: I think I would probably lose my mind if I thought in those terms when I’m actually sitting in front of the word processor. I hope it does reach a big audience, but that’s such an abstract thing. Making the movie was still very similar to making Brick and The Brother’s Bloom. It felt like a group of friends getting together to make a movie. Even the fresh blood we brought—Bruce  and Emily —instantly felt like party of the gang.



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                        I was writing it for Joe. Largely just because we’ve stayed really good friends since we made Brick together, and I just wanted to work with my friend. I knew the part was going to require this big transformation and that’s something that Joe really loves doing, so for a lot of different reasons it made sense.



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                        Bruce was like at the top of the list. I just looked at the list, and I was like, ‘oh my god, Bruce Willis.’ We said ‘let’s offer it to him but he’ll never say yes. But let’s try.’ We never thought he’d say yes.



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                                        We have to talk about Emily ! I had no idea how she would pull off being an American Midwestern farm girl. I couldn’t imagine that, and that’s part of why I cast her—because it’s like ‘I know she’ll do it but I don’t know how.’ And she showed up blonde and tanned. Joe is the transformation, the physical transformation, everyone’s talking about, but she had just as big a transformation. She looked like a different person on set.



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